From your lips to God's ears.  However wouldn't this really be a Dougherty negotiation and not a GA negotiation?   I see Dougherty having to play a much larger role in this.

Last edited by duqkurt (12/15/2012 9:41 am)

Another point in our favor would be a vested interest from Mario and Consol.  They would love to have the revenue from a successful DU on a yearly basis.  I could imagine them being part of the selling team when/if DU were to make their presentation.

Bilgy wrote:

Staying in the Atlantic 10 is the wiser choice.  Duquesne has a better shot at getting to the NCAA's than in the Catholic conference.  As I stated before, Catholics should never segregate themselves in anything.  And chasing money is not in Duquesne's best interests.  The new league isn't that good.  Seton Hall, Providence, De Paul, and St. John's aren't so great.  Only Villanova and Georgetown are elite, and they may not stay.  Duquesne should war game this move for 10 yeras down the road.  Duquesne may end up as a 10 year doormat.  The Atlantic 10 is going to be just fine and Duquesne has a good chance to move up.

No disrespect intended, this sort of thinking baffles my mind. There are no guarantees what will happen to the A10 if 4 or 5 programs were to leave.  Don't take us and Richmond or Bonas move up gladly to take the spot.

Ten years down the road?   You want to plan for ten years down the road?  Things are changing monthly. You can't plan in this environment for ten years down the road. Ignoring this opportunity for an unknown landscape will never be an option for either Dougherty or GA.

Ironduke81 wrote:

9. TV contracts are negioted based upon media markets Dayton please!

There's no point in trashing Dayton. Dayton won't make any difference as far as Duquesne is concerned. Duquesne is being considered for the eastern division, not the western. The Richmond schools are the competition, not Dayton. There are 7 schools being considered for the western division. X, Marquette, and DePaul are locks. Creighton, Dayton, SLU, and Butler will compete for the other 3 spots. In the east, 5 spots are taken by BE schools. The 6th will either go to one of the Richmond schools, or Duquesne. If they feel they need a very strong team, VCU will get it, if market is more important, we have a chance.

duqkurt wrote:

Another point in our favor would be a vested interest from Mario and Consol.  They would love to have the revenue from a successful DU on a yearly basis.  I could imagine them being part of the selling team when/if DU were to make their presentation.

THis is a point that was also rattling around in my brain, bring the folks at the Consol into the game; a great selling point.

If the powers that be at DU have a clue they will enlist the support and guidance of Dave Moorehouse from the Penguins. He's a local guy and this would be right in his sweet spot. The bigger question is do they know that?

Anyone can get in touch with him by calling the penguins offices. The point is do they know how to utilize his skills in getting an opportunity to join the new league with a brand that I believe, we would consider better, but clearly not what it once was. Especially in the late 70's erly 80's when this could and should have happened rather than what became the BE.

Getting the NCAA tournement here is a far lighter and way less important lift as it relates to the long term health of the program.

dukesfan86 wrote:

Anyone can get in touch with him by calling the penguins offices. The point is do they know how to utilize his skills in getting an opportunity to join the new league with a brand that I believe, we would consider better, but clearly not what it once was. Especially in the late 70's erly 80's when this could and should have happened rather than what became the BE.

Getting the NCAA tournement here is a far lighter and way less important lift as it relates to the long term health of the program.

I imagine that they will use all resources available to them.

Think about this.  The the Catholic 7 left the Big East because the addition of Tulane in New Orleans was going to bring down their RPI, and they had no say in the decision.  Why would they choose Duquesne?  Pittsburgh is nice, but it is not as nice as New Orleans in winter.  Tulane was the straw that broke the camel's back.  Would they replace that straw with lesser straw?  By the way, Tulane finally beat LSU this year and are 6-1.  Duquesne sullied their lunch bucket last night.

I'm done posting on this topic totally.  You either get people ridiculing you for attempting to sell Duquesne or people who are thrilled with the status quo and won't accept change.

Accepting the status quo DEFINES the problems of this athletic department.

Last edited by duqkurt (12/16/2012 1:04 pm)

Sad. By the way, I did not realize this but the BE7 won't leave until 6/30/15 according to this article.

http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=4365#more-4365

Last edited by CLK (12/16/2012 5:41 pm)

Personally I think the "Catholic" schools should think long term.  The reason the Big East imploded was because they were not a like minded conference.  The "Catholics" or whatever you care to call them, should bind as many schools as possible, before the NCAA itself implodes.  That way they have some leverage against the big state schools.  The Big East is a thing of the past.  Everyone is still thinking in terms of what they were. not what the are now.  Ten years ago, would they be up at night worried about being raided? If they don't pool a lot of schools together this time, the same processes will be repeated until they are all has beens,  Duquesne was once great, now look at the name recognition.  The same could be said for the other once powerful name universities (Providence, Seaton Hall, even St. Johns, just to name a few). Heck, Duquesne actually gave Georgetown a game while getting clobbered by Pitt and Bobbie Mo.  Short term elite thinking is going to be the death of them.