Duquesne Dukes Fan Forum / Game Thread - Marshall University Thundering Herd

**Posted by PhoenixRising2** 12/05/2023 8:09 pm

7:00pm EST tip on Wednesday 12/6/2023 at the Cam Henderson Center, Huntington, WV

Betting line: Dukes are 4½ point favorites; Over/Under 154
Duquesne 3-4 Against the Spread: Marshall 2-5 ATS

Per KenPom (362 D-1 Teams):
Dukes #85 (5-2) vs Marshall #209 (2-5)
Game prediction: Dukes win by 5, 79-74 - Dukes with 68% probability of a win.
https://kenpom.com/gameprep.php?g=1549
Per Haslametrics:
Dukes #100 vs Marshall #184
Game prediction: Dukes win by 3, 78.70-76.08
https://haslametrics.com/preview.php?yr=&tid1=4391&tid2=575&neut=0
Per BartTorvik:
Dukes #57 vs Marshall #176
Game prediction: Dukes win by 6, 81-75 - Dukes with a 69% probability of a win.
https://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Duquesne&year=2024
Duquesne Preview: https://goduquesne.com/news/2023/12/5/mens-basketball-preview-duquesne-at-marshall.aspx Duquesne Game Notes: https://goduquesne.com/documents/2023/12/5/08_Marshall.pdf Marshall Game Notes: https://herdzone.com/news/2023/12/4/mens-basketball-marshall-mens-basketball-to-host-duquesne-wednesday
Sports Reference College Basketball Team Pages:
Duquesne: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/duquesne/men/2024.html Marshall: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/marshall/men/2024.html
Dukes KenPom Best Wins: UC Irvine (75); College of Charleston (132); Cleveland St. (188)
Dukes KenPom Worst Losses: Nebraska (61); Princeton (46)
Marshall KenPom Best Wins: FIU (242); Queens (247)
Marshall KenPom Worst Losses: Miami OH (251); Radford (163); Oakland (144)

Shooting Percentage Offense/Defense (per KenPom)
Dukes 3 Point: Offense 36.7%, 69 in D-1; Defense 35.9%, 284 in D-1
Marshall 3 Point: Offense 26.9%, 333 in D-1; Defense 36.6%, 303 in D-1
Dukes 2 Point: Offense 52.1%, 122 in D-1; Defense 44.2%, 36 in D-1
Marshall 2 Point: Offense 48.2%, 241 in D-1; Defense 50.9%, 200 in D-1
Dukes FT: Offense 70.9%, 194 in D-1; Defense 72.6%, 248 in D-1
Marshall FT: Offense 72.4%, 135 in D-1; Defense 64.8%, 31 in D-1

Points per Possession and Number of Possessions (per KenPom)
Marshall Adj Offense Efficiency - 101.9; 241 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Defense Efficiency - 103.6; 144 in D-1
Marshall Adj Defense Efficiency - 105.1; 175 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Offense Efficiency - 112.0; 59 in D-1
Marshall Adj Tempo - 74.5; 11 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Tempo - 68.0; 232 in D-1

Miscellaneous (per KenPom)
Experience - Marshall 2.47 yrs; 61 in D-1; Dukes 2.76 yrs; 25 in D-1
Average Height - Marshall 77.8"; 78 in D-1; Dukes 76.2"; 326 in D-1

Last edited by PhoenixRising2 (12/06/2023 3:06 pm)

**Posted by PhoenixRising2** 12/05/2023 8:23 pm

Game is televised on ESPN+ (this was a late addition to the broadcast schedule).

Also, the Dukes are looking for their first non-conference victory on the road since November 22, 2014 when the Dukes won at Abilene Christian. Keith Dambrot is 0-5 in road non-conference games.

**Posted by NapaDuke** 12/05/2023 8:41 pm

PhoenixRising2 wrote:
Game is televised on ESPN+ (this was a late addition to the broadcast schedule).

Also, the Dukes are looking for their first non-conference victory on the road since November 22, 2014 when the Dukes won at Abilene Christian. Keith Dambrot is 0-5 in road non-conference games.

We need this win. this is, not only, an expected win but a must win.

Last edited by NapaDuke (12/06/2023 2:55 am)

**Posted by CLK** 12/06/2023 9:05 am

PhoenixRising2 wrote:
Game is televised on ESPN+ (this was a late addition to the broadcast schedule).

Also, the Dukes are looking for their first non-conference victory on the road since November 22, 2014 when the Dukes won at Abilene Christian. Keith Dambrot is 0-5 in road non-conference games.

Hopefully that streak will be broken tonight. We have the Heard killer in Andrei Savrasov.

**Posted by phil95** 12/06/2023 9:26 am

I want to see some pick & roll sets for Savrasov.

**Posted by stew** 12/06/2023 10:54 am

Will be in Huntington tonight.This should be a w but worry about refereeing.If the Dukes stay out of foul trouble they are golden.Marshall doesnt shoot the 3s well and they dont play good defense.They got a kid named Martin 6-8 235 who is averaging a double double so Dukes need to rebound box out .

**Posted by stew** 12/06/2023 10:58 am

Clark should do well,nobody can stop his dribble drive,the bigs just need to finish off around the bucket.

**Posted by z duke** 12/06/2023 11:21 am

Any word on Williams?

**Posted by townsonkid** 12/06/2023 12:52 pm

ESPN gives us 47.6% chance of winning. Seems like they think Marshall is pretty good. Homecourt will mean something, shouldnt be as much home cookin' as Nebraska got.

**Posted by levon1975** 12/06/2023 1:45 pm

Don’t be shocked but Marshall is pretty notorious for “home cookin”!

**Posted by Mike Ignelsi** 12/06/2023 2:48 pm

I remember well getting hosed down there, Den. . The infamous “Jessie James is dead!” Game - as named by felon Louis Del Maestro.. Another city we were less than politely asked to leave.

**Posted by PhoenixRising2** 12/06/2023 3:00 pm

levon1975 wrote:
Don’t be shocked but Marshall is pretty notorious for “home cookin”!

No question. It is one of the toughest venues to get a road win. Marshall is 405-125 (76.4%) at the Cam Henderson Center. Marshall has the 42nd ranked home court advantage (3.8 points) per KenPom.

I'm glad that the game is on ESPN+ so if a hosing takes place, at least it would be memorialized.

**Posted by NapaDuke** 12/06/2023 3:48 pm

PhoenixRising2 wrote:
levon1975 wrote:
Don’t be shocked but Marshall is pretty notorious for “home cookin”!
No question. It is one of the toughest venues to get a road win. Marshall is 405-125 (76.4%) at the Cam Henderson Center. Marshall has the 42nd ranked home court advantage (3.8 points) per KenPom.

I'm glad that the game is on ESPN+ so if a hosing takes place, at least it would be memorialized.

Play fast , score early on the shot clock, play smart D. Adjust early to exactly what the refs are calling. Don't be afraid to make 3's early on the shot clock. Playing slow half court to points in the paint will likely favor Marshall on their home court. These Dukes can beat anyone if the refs aren't partial, but count on it.

Last edited by NapaDuke (12/06/2023 4:20 pm)

**Posted by luckymcd** 12/06/2023 3:56 pm

Hmmm what does ESPN see that literally nobody else does? On a probably unrelated side note, how crazy is it that ESPN literally takes bets on games it is broadcasting live? Anyway, I know what they deemed as “similar games” used to play a big part in their predictions; I don’t if they still do.

Based on last year’s game I’d be shocked to see Duquesne favored. Looking at every number from this year I’d expect to be bigger favorites. I don’t really care how much we win by though, as long as we get the W. It would be a bad loss even if it is at their place.

**Posted by BluffHunter** 12/06/2023 4:05 pm

Tonight has to be the night Coach D gets his first non-conference away game as a Duke... This Marshall team is not as bad as their record shows but they are not great. We have to be able to win against whatever adversity is thrown our way. Princeton we needed a different bounce for the win, Nebraska was just painful to play against two opponents at once. Duquesne will have to fight tonight and I believe they will be prepared.

**Posted by NapaDuke** 12/06/2023 4:32 pm

BluffHunter wrote:
Tonight has to be the night Coach D gets his first non-conference away game as a Duke... This Marshall team is not as bad as their record shows but they are not great. We have to be able to win against whatever adversity is thrown our way. Princeton we needed a different bounce for the win, Nebraska was just painful to play against two opponents at once. Duquesne will have to fight tonight and I believe they will be prepared.

It's a bit disturbing that KD has in 6 plus years not won an away game in non-conf? Let's hope his approach to Marshall is well prepared to face both the Herd and the refs.

**Posted by phil95** 12/06/2023 4:41 pm

The biggest threat for the Dukes tonight is KD getting out-coached.

Our squad is bigger, deeper, more experienced, & more talented. This be enough to overcome any home court advantage.

I expect Marshall to blitz our 3 guards at times & get tricky with defensive schemes at others. Does the coaching staff have the team prepped & well-drilled for these contingencies?

**Posted by BluffHunter** 12/06/2023 4:42 pm

NapaDuke wrote:
BluffHunter wrote:
Tonight has to be the night Coach D gets his first non-conference away game as a Duke... This Marshall team is not as bad as their record shows but they are not great. We have to be able to win against whatever adversity is thrown our way. Princeton we needed a different bounce for the win, Nebraska was just painful to play against two opponents at once. Duquesne will have to fight tonight and I believe they will be prepared.
It's a bit disturbing that KD has in 6 plus years not won an away game in non-conf? Let's hope his approach to Marshall is well prepared to face both the Herd and the refs.

When you think about what his non-conference schedules at Duquesne have traditionally been, (mostly cupcakes at home with a couple neutral site games and maybe a one off at Kentucky or Notre Dame) it makes sense... but still a sad stat.

**Posted by Ironduke81** 12/06/2023 5:32 pm

If the Dukes are in this game PLEASE on the inbound could Dambrot scheme an inbound to the 1 2 or 3 instead of Dixon😂🤔🤮

**Posted by WashPaRick** 12/06/2023 6:54 pm

I expect us to get the short end of the calls. If that's the case and marshall's 3 pt, shooting is a little suspect it might be a good time to play some zone.Might cut down on suspect calls and keep us out of foul trouble.

**Posted by NapaDuke** 12/06/2023 7:53 pm

Dukes scoring early on the shot clock, fast pace, Marshall is not as talented as this Dukes team. Stay up by 10 and then go inside. We should extend that led in the second half. Let's hope it works that way.

**Posted by townsonkid** 12/06/2023 7:55 pm

Should be cruising in this one. Let Clark go off. Rozier, stop screwing up, Dixon and Barre just go hulk mode and big Russia gotta play more.

They will shoot more 3s and cant get much worse(2-15), so we gotta keep scoring.

That camera motion is making my head hurt. And why is it set up at the 3pt line and not mid court?

**Posted by WashPaRick** 12/06/2023 7:56 pm

Would of liked to have a bigger lead at the half. Marshall can't shoot the 3 that bad in the second half. Need to come out quick after the break.

**Posted by NapaDuke** 12/06/2023 7:58 pm

WashPaRick wrote:
Would of liked to have a bigger lead at the half. Marshall can't shoot the 3 that bad in the second half. Need to come out quick after the break.
Refs had a min. affect so far, but they are trying to screw us.

**Posted by BluffHunter** 12/06/2023 8:57 pm

Scary moment with Chabi. Hoping it was minor.