CLK wrote:

Do we dare dream 

https://www.prephoops.com/2016/08/recruiting-update-dwayne-cohill-2018/

 

“It is right in the heart of Pittsburgh,” said Cohill.  “You get to play in front of thousands of people". And I humbly consider myself part of those thousands.
 

Carmody also visited. Here is another story on the visited 

http://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2016/08/18/duquesne-hosts-top-100-player/
 

Head fakes by Cohill, Carmody and Ferry.    For the players, the more offers the better.  They can play schools off of each other.
For Ferry,  he can say he recruits top 100 players.  But to no avail.  Ferry will end up signing the usual 2 plus star players.
Only hope for Ferry is the player has family  connections to the city or the player determines that he is not as good he is being told and going to DU would allow him to play and develop rather than sit the bench at an Ohio State or West Virginia. Think NIxon, Mike James or Nick Bosnic.

Econ69 wrote:

Head fakes by Cohill, Carmody and Ferry.    For the players, the more offers the better.  They can play schools off of each other.
For Ferry,  he can say he recruits top 100 players.  But to no avail.  Ferry will end up signing the usual 2 plus star players.
Only hope for Ferry is the player has family  connections to the city or the player determines that he is not as good he is being told and going to DU would allow him to play and develop rather than sit the bench at an Ohio State or West Virginia. Think NIxon, Mike James or Nick Bosnic.

Nixon?  Nixon doesn't belong on that list. Nixon signed with a program that had gone 18-7, 21-4, 17-7, 21-5, 20-5, 16-8 over the previous 6 years, and was ranked at some point during 4 of those seasons. He didn't come because he thought it would be easy to play, he came because Duquesne was a strong program.
 

I guess I should have expected the stream of negativity relating to this post.  Getting these guys to visit is a huge step.  If they don't try to get these guys the complaint would be that we don't go after the top players so they'll never get better.  If they didn't go after Isaiah Mike, he wouldn't be in the program now.  The point is that you only have to attract one of these guys to convince other guys that Duquesne is a viable option. 

I've been over this so many times on this board, but Duquesne has so much to offer a player, good academics, playing in an exciting city that is a fun place for young people, the opportunity to play in a good league in major eastern cities, where you can get exposure; normally a 4-5 bid league, that is not so stacked with the blue bloods of basketball that you can't hope to compete, a great sports city that will support Duquesne as soon as it starts to win again, lots of local alumni many in prominent positions, a new administration and athletic director that has already made a difference in the sports program.

Levon I absolutely agree to take a shot at top 100 players.  There is a difference, however, between negativity and realism.  How many top 100 players have we landed in the last 30 years?. Not saying it can't happen just exceedingly rare.  Our best shot is a local kid and to go after these kids early before they blow up like TJ (I think this is the case with Mike also). The reality today is that kids want to play at the highest level, and if a major program comes calling they just shove you out of the way.  Case in point was the kid a couple years ago (forget his name)  was down to us and the Bonnies after a long courtship.  South Carolina came in and offered the day before he was scheduled to make a decision, scheduled a quick visit and signed him.  DU does have a lot to offer, and this works to our advantage when recruiting under the radar guys with offers from lesser conferences like the kid in the link below.  That is a hit or miss proposition depending on how well our coaches measure potential and see things others miss.  I would say the Bonnies coaches have been real good at that.

http://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2016/08/20/strong-visit-duquesne/

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/jason-strong





 

Last edited by CLK (8/20/2016 8:53 am)

duq81 wrote:

Anyone remember Danny Nee's quote that if he came to see a kid, and a big name coach was there, he'd turn around and walk out?

Danny Nee is a bad example.  The guy hung it up before he even came to DU.  Both Ron & Ferry have taken shots at kids with big offers because while it is a long shot you never know.  My feeling is a swing and a miss is better than never stepping to the plate.  Here is a kid we are after with BCS offers where we are still made the cut.  Who knows?

Chip Miller ‏[/url]Marcus Santos-Silva final eight: VCU, Boston College, Temple, Bradley, Kansas St, St Bonaventure, Duquesne and LaSalle, per [url=https://twitter.com/VTAcademyHoops]@VTAcademyHoops.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/marcus-santos-silva

Last edited by CLK (8/20/2016 1:24 pm)

Along with offering early you have to have the foresight to recognize that a kid "has it."

TJ is the best example. Ron offered him freshman year and how many posters ripped the two of them.

CLK wrote:

Levon I absolutely agree to take a shot at top 100 players.  There is a difference, however, between negativity and realism.  How many top 100 players have we landed in the last 30 years?. Not saying it can't happen just exceedingly rare.  Our best shot is a local kid and to go after these kids early before they blow up like TJ (I think this is the case with Mike also). The reality today is that kids want to play at the highest level, and if a major program comes calling they just shove you out of the way.  Case in point was the kid a couple years ago (forget his name)  was down to us and the Bonnies after a long courtship.  South Carolina came in and offered the day before he was scheduled to make a decision, scheduled a quick visit and signed him.  DU does have a lot to offer, and this works to our advantage when recruiting under the radar guys with offers from lesser conferences like the kid in the link below.  That is a hit or miss proposition depending on how well our coaches measure potential and see things others miss.  I would say the Bonnies coaches have been real good at that.

http://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2016/08/20/strong-visit-duquesne/

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/jason-strong





 

Strong looks like a good option; a mobile big guy, the type that fits well into the Jim Ferry offensive system.  Hopefully we can make this happen.