1111 Vickroy wrote:

So if i understand, Shitt can play Bobby mo but not the Dukes?

Capel didn't want to play Bobby Mo, that was forced on him by the folks running Pitt. I would bet that the Pitt big shots have told him he can't kill the series, but allowed him to have his way this coming year.  I'd respect Capel more if he had just said, "we're going to be working in a bunch of new players this year. The ACC schedule is tough, and I really don't want to overload the ooc this year. Duquesne's a very solid team, and with the ACC-B10 challenge, and a holiday tourney we're working on, it doesn't leave us many games to experiment, and get these new guys up to speed. I don't want to overload them with a bunch of tough games early. Next year we'll be ready to handle more tough games early". A statement like that would have still pissed me off, but I can respect honesty, and that he's protecting his arse. This is the real reason, don't feed us any BS. KD is protecting his arse as well with his RMU stance. I understand his not wanting to go out there. We actually should never have agreed to a straight home and home with them. 2 for 1 might have been appropriate. However, we did agree to a 1-1 deal, and to their credit, they stepped up and beat our tails. I don't blame them for not wanting to play only at the Coop. If that's the issue, play the game at PPG every year. It won't draw as well as the game with Pitt, but it could still develop into something pretty nice. Would be great if they could get out of the NEC, and into a better league like the MAAC, AE, or CAA. Would add some stature to their program.
 

Last edited by duq81 (5/15/2020 3:20 pm)

1111 Vickroy wrote:

Just read an ESPN article and the AD at Shitt is saying they are going to play the Dukes in 21-22 at Petersen. That's a bit of a shame as the 2020 Dukes would probably have a better shot at whuppin their can.

So just looking at behavior, is this a prelude to expecting to play only at Petersen in the future? If so, we shouldn't bother with a one-game contract. I can understand not wanting to play at the Coop, but not at PPG Paints. Some P-5 schools, at least in football, are notorious for reneging on home-and-home contracts with teams that might beat them. They pay an indemnity and replace the opponent with an FBS cupcake or FCS team at home. Admitting Pitt could do the same to us in basketball, at least we get some cash and they get embarrassment. And if they did that one time after this incident, I would call that a pattern and forget them after that. We have been down, but we don't deserve that treatment.

Finally, I agree we should play Robert Morris again and at PPG Paints to resolve any home-and-home impasse. 

Last edited by scduke (5/15/2020 6:51 pm)

I am following this story & enjoying the different points of view. I am quite impressed with the way Harper/KD are turning this situation to their advantage.

I am totally impressed with the new optimism among so many long-time posters. However, I just can't get past my anxiety concerning which players are leaving. 

Please, just rip off the band-aid. I am dying to know who is staying.

93.7 Podcasts were fair in their analysis.

https://937thefan.radio.com/media/audio-channel/duquesne-head-basketball-coach-keith-dambrot-7

https://937thefan.radio.com/media/audio-channel/no-city-gamewhy

Last edited by HookShot (5/15/2020 8:59 pm)

watch-paul-zeise-on-pitt-deciding-not-to-play-duquesne-again

Interesting - especially since he believes the game should be played and that Pitt has better players according to him and that Pitt would probably beat Duquesne anyhow...according to him.  His son played football at Pitt but I have found him to be more objective at times even though that was the case.

Last edited by FAM (5/16/2020 8:17 am)

https://thebluffblog.net/2020/05/16/a-short-and-fruitless-open-letter/

it is interesting why PItt reneged on their promise to play DU this season.
Pitt and DU don't recruit the same players; losing to DU, a top 100 NET
team would be a better loss than to NIcholls State and DU was very accommodating
in making the game possible.
Villanova plays St Joe, Penn, Lasalle and Temple every year as part of the Big Five.
Villanvova, past national champs and a member of the Big East, find a spot to play those teams in their non conf schedule.
I guess we will never know the truth.

From Pittsburgh Sports Castle’s Jeff Cinello:

https://pittsburghsportscastle.com/2020/05/15/cinello-capel-finally-made-a-mistake/

townsonkid wrote:

Zeise tries to hide it, but he is a pitt homer.   His kid played LB there, he rarely says a bad word about pitt, but PSU and WVU....they're junk and always wrong.   
Whatever their reason, pitt is taking a hit in the yinzer community.   Even pitt grads think its a bad move.

The more we win, the worse they'll look. If we don't live up to the hype, then it will be "Duquesne sucks, no one misses beating them".
 

it was one of the talking heads on kdka said maybe Capel feels Pitt shouldnt have to play DU at PPG.   Would Duke ever play Davidson in Greensboro.   Made no sense.   Esp considering DU was willing to play at pitt.    
But Harper shouldnt let himself become Charlie Brown and heather lyke be Lucy and pull the football away every time.    Move on.   Start working on Ohio St, Penn St(wasnt a great turnout last time), WVU, Maryland, ND, Indiana, Nova, UVa.    And the game will be at PPG and they can have plenty of their own fans come to the Burgh.

I think the article is slanted towards Pitt n Smizik really makes a dismissive comment about the Dukes

townsonkid wrote:

it was one of the talking heads on kdka said maybe Capel feels Pitt shouldnt have to play DU at PPG.   Would Duke ever play Davidson in Greensboro.   Made no sense.   Esp considering DU was willing to play at pitt.    
But Harper shouldnt let himself become Charlie Brown and heather lyke be Lucy and pull the football away every time.    Move on.   Start working on Ohio St, Penn St(wasnt a great turnout last time), WVU, Maryland, ND, Indiana, Nova, UVa.    And the game will be at PPG and they can have plenty of their own fans come to the Burgh.

LOL! We'd be lucky to get a game AT one of those schools you mentioned. Schools don't schedule games that don't do anything to help them, especially on the road, where they might lose. Maybe if we turn into an eastern Gonzaga, we might get a name school or two to come here.
 

townsonkid wrote:

it was one of the talking heads on kdka said maybe Capel feels Pitt shouldnt have to play DU at PPG.   Would Duke ever play Davidson in Greensboro.   Made no sense.   Esp considering DU was willing to play at pitt.    
But Harper shouldnt let himself become Charlie Brown and heather lyke be Lucy and pull the football away every time.    Move on.   Start working on Ohio St, Penn St(wasnt a great turnout last time), WVU, Maryland, ND, Indiana, Nova, UVa.    And the game will be at PPG and they can have plenty of their own fans come to the Burgh.

I agree 1,000% (not a typo). I am sick of having spitt dictate to us and will be very upset if we allow them to do so again. To hell with q(u)itt, and they can shove their 2021 breadcrumb offer to play them-- but only on their terms (petersdumb only). Our schedule should read: #hitt, who?