Please forgive the redundancy of this question.

Are these the correct amounts eligibility for these three players:
Ayers-2 years
Gunn-1 year
Williams-3 years

phil95 wrote:

Please forgive the redundancy of this question.

Are these the correct amounts eligibility for these three players:
Ayers-2 years
Gunn-1 year
Williams-3 years

That would be correct given the current rules in place.
 

J R Gunn was a starting guard at Lenoir-Rhyne. His comfort zone has been more at the perimeter than the interior. He will not be the inside presence that his size would suggest.
The addition, or not, of a true big center will be the pivot-point to next year's season.

Pathfinder wrote:

J R Gunn was a starting guard at Lenoir-Rhyne. His comfort zone has been more at the perimeter than the interior. He will not be the inside presence that his size would suggest.
The addition, or not, of a true big center will be the pivot-point to next year's season.

Welcome to the Board.  After watching a couple of Lenoir-Rhyne full game videos I absolutely agree with you on Gunn.  He looks like he would be best suited as a small forward.  He has an an unorthodox jump shot that is devastating and nearly impossible to stop.  However, did not see much post up play or rebounding.  Does not mean KD can't try to convert him, but that would not be playing to his strengths.  

The Dukes need another big strong strong rebounder.  I wonder what happened to Titus Wright? He would fit the bill as well as Ty Groce. 

 EJ Brown on Twitter: "#Available 6’9 235 Titus Wright (GA) season highlights ... 3 years remaining! @tight_wright22 https://t.co/AWb3WxRQEE" / Twitter
 

CLK wrote:

Pathfinder wrote:

J R Gunn was a starting guard at Lenoir-Rhyne. His comfort zone has been more at the perimeter than the interior. He will not be the inside presence that his size would suggest.
The addition, or not, of a true big center will be the pivot-point to next year's season.

Welcome to the Board.  After watching a couple of Lenoir-Rhyne full game videos I absolutely agree with you on Gunn.  He looks like he would be best suited as a small forward.  He has an an unorthodox jump shot that is devastating and nearly impossible to stop.  However, did not see much post up play or rebounding.  Does not mean KD can't try to convert him, but that would not be playing to his strengths.  

The Dukes need another big strong strong rebounder.  I wonder what happened to Titus Wright? He would fit the bill as well as Ty Groce. 

 EJ Brown on Twitter: "#Available 6’9 235 Titus Wright (GA) season highlights ... 3 years remaining! @tight_wright22 https://t.co/AWb3WxRQEE" / Twitter
 

After watching full games, how do you think Gunn will fair against A-10 competition?

=16pxThanks, CLK.

=16pxI don't know how anybody else sees it but, I am thoroughly confused as to what the rotation of 2s, 3s, & small-ball 4s would look like if today's version of the roster turns out to be the opening night roster. Baker, Okani, Gunn, Maceo, Barba, & Ayers all look like they are worthy of minutes at the 2 or 3. Primo, TDM, Jett, & Acuff to varying degrees, add to the 2-guard logjam while Harris & Williams, as the only known-entity big men will give up some minutes the gents mentioned above when a quicker, more mobile, & better shooting PF is called for.  With what now seems to be quite the stable of better shooting/bigger wings, =16pxsome combination of =16pxTDM, Primo, & Acuff would have to see at least some time at the point with JJ in order to remain engaged. 

=16pxThese observations & the continued overage in scholarship inventory lead me to a conclusion that some of our more roster savvy posters saw coming weeks ago. There are 3-4 scholarship players that will still have to go in order to remain in NCAA compliance & achieve viable positional balance on the roster. I find this frustrating because =16pxBaker, Okani, Maceo, Hima, Barba, Acuff, Harris, & Jett, are all players that  I see as having the high upside strengthened by their multiple seasons of remaining eligibility. There just are just not nearly enough minutes to go around for talented players with expectations of playing heavy minutes.  Not to mention, this situation makes the departure of Rotroff & Bekelja almost inevitable.

(Maybe KD & staff already know that Barba's recent injury/surgery makes him an automatic medical redshirt creating one less playing time demand to be met.)

In some ways, I am encouraged by these developments in that this must be what richer in talent programs work through every offseason. Although, I recall feeling similarly at this time last year when we all thought that 7 of the team's top 8 were returning, there were a couple of quality recruits were already committed, Kelly would be fully rehabbed, The Coop would open, & the programwas coming off a 21-9/11-7 season.  

Phil as you may recall last season we started with 15 players not counting know walk-ons. The only explanation for this was two players we thought were on athletic scholarship were actually  paying their own way.

I believe that is still the case and as we stand right now we are at the 13 athletic scholarship limit. The scholarship math was discussed in another thread. Any new player at this point would require someone who is on athletic scholarship to leave.

There is going to be a lot of competition for playing time next season, no question about that.

I know that there are many combinations and different opinions. If I was going to guess  the first 10 by position as it stands right now it would be;

PG: TDM Johnson
SG: Baker Spears
SF: Ayers Okani
PF: Gunn Harris
C: Williams (Hima or Rotroff)

I have no doubt this most likely will all change. Still so many unknowns at this point.

Your 10 makes as much sense as any. The problem is that it does a pretty good job of burying Acuff & Maceo while putting Okani & Harris further down the depth chart than they are likely to be content with. I think that guarantees promising players will be moving on.

In other news, I have begun practicing meditation to control my angst in the event that TDM is the starting PG at the beginning of the conference season.

Try not to think traditionally in terms of positions; I.e. point guard, two-guard, swing-man, Power forward, Center.  The trend is toward position less basketball affording coaches the opportunity to play many different combinations.  The important thing is to have versatility on defense; so you can readily switch and guard anyone on the opposition without creating very bad matchups.  That’s why guys like Ayers, Baker, Okani and Acuff are so valuable in today’s game.  They can guard up or down in terms of size matchups.

CLK wrote:

phil95 wrote:

Your 10 makes as much sense as any. The problem is that it does a pretty good job of burying Acuff & Maceo while putting Okani & Harris further down the depth chart than they are likely to be content with. I think that guarantees promising players will be moving on.

This is a different world today.  The portal has changed the game.  There is no longer a stigma attached with losing players.  Look at St. Bonaventure they lost 9 players so far to the portal.  It will be up to the players to compete and earn minutes.  I have no doubt that the players you mentioned have the ability to compete and earn substantial minutes, but coaches can no longer just play kids because they are unhappy.    
 

It has changed so dramatically over the past 5 years or so.  I think the idea of recruiting a kid and watching him progress over 4 years is over.  It may happen from time to time but that will be the rare exception.  It is all about plugging and playing kids from the portal every year.  If you are recruited out of high school and do not make an immediate impact you will likely be recruited over or replaced by someone in the portal.  

Take for example Dre Harris.  Arent we still really high on this kid?  I am.  He was a big-time recruit and he looked good in limited action last season.  But he wasn't Chad Baker good so we already have him behind guys we haven't seen in a Dukes uniform on the depth chart.  And maybe that is the correct assessment.  But 5 years ago we would have been talking like, "now Marcus is gone it's time for Dre to take over." 
 

A kid from Fairmont State just signed with Baylor. Now I'm a little more interested in what Gunn's going to bring.

Baylor also signed a 2017 D-II recruit Freddie Gillespie a few years back. He went to Carleston College I believe and was eventually a 2nd team BIG 12 selection.