CityDuke wrote:

Rayrich wrote:

CityDuke wrote:

Ray, after checking the stats like you asked, this is what I have found. According to the +/-, Brewer had a -13 and Rozier had a +7.

More interesting numbers for the rest of us. While it felt like they killed us in transition, they had 17 fast break points to our 16. It wasn’t even the second chance points that really killed us. They had 20 to our 11.

Hard not to love the fight from our Dukes. We dared Jimerson to beat us on the dribble and he was up for the challenge. Also, some of their other guys (Hughes and Pickett) made some big time shots that normally don’t. SLU have to feel like they got away with one tonight.

Jimerson should never beat you on the dribble, unless you are flat footed. Give me a source for those stats please as the eye test showed different. St. Louis had 30 layups tonight. No team wins with that defenseless effort. The only reason the Dukes stuck around was because of their 3 point shooting which won't get any better than that, but they still lost. 90 points allowed against USL? Really? When was the last time USL scored that many in an A-10 game? I don't fault the players and effort I fault the system and substitution patterns. Should have pressed early and often when up by double figures. Played right into their hands. Like I told my wife Diane, Dambrot is keeping USL around by not pressing. She agreed. Not rocket science. When it was a fifteen point game and they went into their halfcourt offense I said to Diane it will be a one point game by half. Was a point off. Hope i'm wrong, but this guy will ever take this program to an NIT bid let alone an NCAA bid. I do believe Joyce would be a great replacement though. 
 

https://mobile.twitter.com/earlaustinjr/status/1627146665864953856

Thank you didn't realize Rozier was in the plus by the eye test and Brewer and all the starters in the negative. Rozier, Rotroff, and McGriff need more minutes obviously, and Williams and Reece were brutal tonight. Biggest needs are big men next year.

grammudder wrote:

And I thought after Ritter's Diner was gone, we only had conjoined twins posting. I was wrong. We have the first ever conjoined triplets commenting on our team and coach. Orate pro nobis!

How about an intellectual rebuttal instead making comments like an immature child. Didn’t you use this line a few days ago and got I believe one laugh. Keep trying you may get two this time because your so funny and original.

Styles1229 wrote:

Styles1229 wrote:

I think we win this one but I'm not going to overreact to a loss.  On the road against a top 4 team is no easy business.

I'm not an X's and O's guy - I don't understand them deeply enough.  I mean I know a pick and roll when I see one and kicking it out when they double the post but when they start talking about "doubling the ball screen" and "switching" and a host of other things I get lost.  All that to say, SLU clearly watched what was working defensively for the Dukes over the past 5 or 6 games and decided to attack us differently.  Our guys seemed just as active and energetic as in games past on the defensive end - they just kept giving up baskets.  I don't know what SLU was doing (I don't understand the X's and O's deeply enough) but it was frustrating.  A road loss to a top team in the conference is by no means a disaster.  Hopefully the coaches figure out what SLU was doing to score so effectively against us and coach the boys up to defend it.  It's on tape now.  So maybe this ends up being a good loss - would hate to see this happen in the tourney and the Dukes have no answer for it.

Right on.

The only real concern from last night for me is that the Dukes still need to work at playing with a substantial lead.

The Dukes played hard and were right in it to the end.  Who knows if we could have grabbed that deflection on the inbound pass.  I liked that we didn't fold when we were down double digits late. The Dukes need to regroup and take care of business as we control our own destiny.  There are a lot of interesting match ups and various combinations, but the best way is for the Dukes to win out.  This team needs to stay confident, believe in themselves and continue to play hard and good things will happen. The Dukes are a very good team, not just my words........

Bally Sports Midwest on Twitter: "Ford on the #Billikens erasing a 15-point deficit to beat Duquesne: "I told our team, 'If we can get this win, it's going to be one of our better wins.' It's a great win and how we got it makes it even better." https://t.co/aA03NHISZ2" / Twitter

I have to agree with Dome on his points. Watching the opposing team just playing volleyball under our basket until they score is common in every game I've watched. We don't box out. Plus, throwing a zone in two or three times a game for two or three possessions would be a sound strategy.
Dae Dae and Jimmy are exhausted at the end of the game. Playing man-on-man then having to bust your tail to get a good shot will do that to you.

We probably weren't going to win out.  So if we "were" going to lose, it would be somehow someway.
I want to see if we win the next game.  That will be the challenge.  We haven't had that many lay ups in that manner against us all year.  Now we have another strategy to work against.  Let's see what happens Wednesday.

Not sure I understand all the outrage over losing at StL.   They are a good team, playing there, on a Saturday night is probably the 3rd most difficult game we had on the schedule.   Played a solid game and was in it down to the last minute.   
LaSalle game is huge for the double bye, then come home, hold court vs David's son and Umass, then play Fordham for what will likely be that double bye, its really not a lot to ask or expect.   Once in Brooklyn, its wide open, anyone can win it all, including us.   
Make March Meaningful.
 

townsonkid wrote:

Not sure I understand all the outrage over losing at StL.   They are a good team, playing there, on a Saturday night is probably the 3rd most difficult game we had on the schedule.   Played a solid game and was in it down to the last minute.   
LaSalle game is huge for the double bye, then come home, hold court vs David's son and Umass, then play Fordham for what will likely be that double bye, its really not a lot to ask or expect.   Once in Brooklyn, its wide open, anyone can win it all, including us.   
Make March Meaningful.
 

I watched the game again yesterday. It was closer than I thought the first time watching it live. Hind site is 20/20, but hitting 3's as well as we did in the first half, we got away from it just a bit in the second. Maybe good, or maybe a bad idea, but St.L. half time adjustment seemed to be to stretch the defense and drive to the hoop. I guess, KD wanted to take away their 3 pt shooting by guarding the perimeter, but gave up wider lanes to the hoop for it. St.L. capitalized on it. I like some folks here thinking a zone at times would be a better choice and I think it could have been more effective in that second half.  Still, inspite of that, it did come down to the closing minute with either team having a chance to win. Very close.

NapaDuke wrote:

townsonkid wrote:

Not sure I understand all the outrage over losing at StL.   They are a good team, playing there, on a Saturday night is probably the 3rd most difficult game we had on the schedule.   Played a solid game and was in it down to the last minute.   
LaSalle game is huge for the double bye, then come home, hold court vs David's son and Umass, then play Fordham for what will likely be that double bye, its really not a lot to ask or expect.   Once in Brooklyn, its wide open, anyone can win it all, including us.   
Make March Meaningful.
 

It would show a lot if the Dukes can win on the road Wed.  As for a double bye, good or not, it didn't work for RE as his 4th place team lost to St.Joe, one and done. And it could work better to play 2 games to lesser team before getting the top teams on that court.  Playing time like that can work in the Dukes favor with a deep bench. In any case, it's nice to see this team late in the season still relevant.  

Can’t argue with anything you said here but still let’s go for the gold and let the chips fall! Still Wednesday game is huge!
Let's go Dukes

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NapaDuke wrote:

townsonkid wrote:

Not sure I understand all the outrage over losing at StL.   They are a good team, playing there, on a Saturday night is probably the 3rd most difficult game we had on the schedule.   Played a solid game and was in it down to the last minute.   
LaSalle game is huge for the double bye, then come home, hold court vs David's son and Umass, then play Fordham for what will likely be that double bye, its really not a lot to ask or expect.   Once in Brooklyn, its wide open, anyone can win it all, including us.   
Make March Meaningful.
 

It would show a lot if the Dukes can win on the road Wed.  As for a double bye, good or not, it didn't work for RE as his 4th place team lost to St.Joe, one and done. And it could work better to play 2 games to lesser team before getting the top teams on that court.  Playing time like that can work in the Dukes favor with a deep bench. In any case, it's nice to see this team late in the season still relevant.  

I was at the St Joe's game in Atlantic City.  Me and a few other alums used to make the annual trip there for the tournament.  We got away from it when they changed locations.  I wish they would go back.  That game was so frustrating as St Joe's upset somebody just to be in that game so it looked like a nice matchup for us.  I remember TJ with 2 late steals/buckets that almost won it for us.  
 

townsonkid wrote:

There seemed to be some bashing going on after the game here.   Coaching, defense, etc, while the day before there was unlimited praise for those.   Regardless, I thought it was a good effort vs a good team in front of 7000 of their fans.   Tough place to play.   I'd like to see them in Brooklyn.

I would love to play the Billikens in Brooklyn! Would be a heck of a game just like this past Saturday, although hopefully with a better outcome.

DennisC91 wrote:

Wasn't expecting a win, even after jumping out to a 15-point first half lead. But I wonder if a college basketball team has ever outscored another college basketball team by 42 points (45-3) from 3-point range and still lost.

to that same point. - I wonder the last time a college basketball team scored 90 points and only made one 3 pointer.  It was probably before the 3 point shot was instituted

DennisC91 wrote:

Wasn't expecting a win, even after jumping out to a 15-point first half lead. But I wonder if a college basketball team has ever outscored another college basketball team by 42 points (45-3) from 3-point range and still lost.

Thought that too. Plus we were 14-18 at the line vs. the Billikens 15-25. Almost inconceivable that a team could lose with those numbers.  THIRTY LAYUPS!!!!!