1111 Vickroy wrote:

duq81 wrote:

1111 Vickroy wrote:

Btw Tunstall never did much. Flenory was a big time recruit as were Atkins n Arnold

Tunny had 10 points a game. Vastly better than the myriad list of stiffs we've waste scholarships on the last 40 years. Doug left after the season. The BB effigy thing was during his junior year.

81 check your stats. He averaged 4.4 a game one season. Ill be kind again and say he did little

I'm thinking of his average at Youngstown.

PistolPete wrote:

This is making me anxious waiting to see who comes back, who transfers out, who transfers in.  It is basically 2 weeks since our season was over and I am wondering what Mike and Marcus are still deliberating????  I further suspect maybe Dre is waiting to see what Marcus does before he decides what he wants to do, but this is just a hunch.  Obviously we are vigorously pursuing players in the portal and in HS, especially the PG position, but it sure would be nice to hear something soon!!!  Go Dukes!!!

Marcus may be waiting for his brother to finish up. His bro might hit the portal after they lose.

ElDuque wrote:

levon1975 wrote:

I agree with ‘81 and it’s not even close with those two teams. Even the teams with Tommy Pipkins, Kevin Price, Nick Bosnic and Mike James et al had guys that were proven scorers. There’s no Pipkins on this team!

Not being argumentative or disagreeable, but I have a few different thoughts from you and duq81 on the topic.
1. I think you have to give guys a couple years under the best circumstances to develop. This was a really crappy year for the Dukes: multiple COVID stops, two starters leave mid-year, etc. Rick Suder would've never been thought of as a "proven scorer" after his freshman year, and he turned out to be one of the best shooters in DU history.
2. Coach threw four freshmen into the fire and I think they all showed they're going to be players. Chad Baker was close to 10 ppg on a senior-dominated team and shot 40% from 3 and 80% from the line. When the season starts, other teams will be keying on him because they will think of him as a proven scorer. I think Okani, Acuff and Harris will all bring their games up a notch, especially if we give them a good PG and a post player who can fill the middle defensively the way Michael Hughes has.
3. Pipkins-Price-Bosnic-Price was a talented quartet, but not much behind them and they certainly didn't win many as a team.
4. Rice's second year (Moon-Atkins-Arnold-BB-Dixon). Talk about a guy not being "proven:" Fred Moon was a 5th year player who had done nothing for four years then stepped up and shot 60% from the field and gave us some rebounding. But Moon didn't do a lot of scoring. That all came from BB (15ppg), Arnold (15ppg) and Atkins (10ppg, whose season was slowed down by a bout of mono. BB and Bruce both lost about 5 ppg off their averages from the previous year. Losing John Moore that year to injury was also a killer. 

 

The guys we have may turn out great, but we knew how loaded that 79-80 team was from the door, The collapse after starting 10-1 was ju

Dukes412 wrote:

I think TDM, Hughes, and Weathers would be great to have back. Not really the big guys fault that we cannot shoot from the outside. Chad baker puts more muscle on and he’s going to be hard to defend. Acuff looks better every game he plays along with Harris and Okani. I am not too sure about Maceo and Rotroff they might need to explore different options neither good enough to play D1 hoops. Most importantly we need a deadly shooter whether that be a grad transfer or true freshman. Also, wouldn’t mind adding a real tall big for rebounds and put backs.

Obviously Hughes, and Weathers, but not TDM. We need a better option than him. Maceo has been a huge disappointment. I don't know what to do there.

Dukes412 wrote:

phil95 wrote:

Dukes412 wrote:

There is a lot of negativity floating around about KD which is absolutely appalling to see. First off I think all the seniors will be back next year since they can improve their stock in becoming pros overseas. That means another year for the freshman to learn, evolve, and get much stronger. The last game was horrible I will say that and was frustrating to watch but it is so hard to play a few games then get shutdown for a month and then finally start playing good only to be shutdown again. Every team has to deal with this I know but it never becomes normal for young kids. Especially it can be tough for shooters since you’re not getting in a rhythm in terms of playing regularly. In terms of TDM the guy can shoot the ball but it’s hard playing point and being a shooter. When they had Frankie Hughes, Eric Williams, and TDM it was a pick your poison cause all of them could shoot the ball while having a guy at point in Sincere Carry who played point for the majority of the game and conserved their energy. In terms of bringing in Micah that’s a waste of a hire no player being brought in is going to completely change their shooting form especially at this level. Also they have Ashton Gibbs on the staff who like him or not was a great shooter at Pitt. I understand the concern after a tough game but the program is moving up not down with KD and now the new arena. If he pulls out a winning record this year that would be 3 years in a row with a winning record when was the last time anybody saw that. As fans we need to trust the process KD is winning and has been able to recruit some players no one has wanted and make them good. That comes with a few misses every now and again like Brandon wade and rotroff but with the new facility we are more likely to bring even better players in. Trust the process!

 412, I like the "trust the process" theme to your post. That seems appropriate given the despair caused by Wednesday

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